These were a Father's Day gift for my husband, who has an extra wide foot (EEE) and difficulty getting a proper fit. I ordered two sizes (8.5 & 9) based on his favorite shoes at home, and followed the recommendations in the reviews, stating that a 5E was now the "new 3E. This was the size 9 (5E) (black) and the width worked out but with way too much length left at the toe (about 1.5") RETURNED THESE. The OTHER PAIR, WHICH HE KEPT was a size 8.5 (5E) (gunsmoke) and the fit is perfect. He can wear them for hours!!!UPDATE Aug.30,2016: The 8.5 5E in gunsmoke worked out so well for my husband since June, that I ordered him another pair in 8.5 5E but in BLACK. This pair has also worked out very well. And, although my original intent was to provide him with some easy to wear but durable shoes for home wear & running out quickly with the dog, they are SO NICE that he wears both pairs as a casual dress shoe at the office!! And, he knows that they will STAY NICE in the wet & messy weather which frequently comes up unexpectedly here in Ohio! GREAT SHOES!!!UPDATE JAN. 9, 2017. My husband has been extremely pleased with the first two pairs of these washable mocs, which he has been wearing since last summer. So, for his bday this week, I got him yet another pair, this time in Brown/Blk, which is a great winter color, and once again a slam dunk in the way of comfort. They're his favorite pair yet!!